Flik and Victor escaping

The Black Knight · Post by **The Black Knight** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:11 pm

Has it ever been said how Flik and Victor escaped the castle at Gregminster at the end of Suikoden 1?

True Wind Bearer · Post by **True Wind Bearer** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:36 pm

Not to my recollection.

I do not remember any hints or anything about the way Flik and Viktor escaped from Gregminster Castle.

I know that some characters in Suikoden II (eg, Luc but I do not really remember) asked Viktor and/or Flik how he/they escaped, but they did not give a proper answer.

So my answer to your question - No; I don't think anything has been mentioned, sadly.

Futagi · Post by **Futagi** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:40 am

I remember almost crying at the end of Suikoden I cuz I'd thought for certain that they'd died. "Thanks for killing off my two favorite characters AND waiting till the very end of the game to do it, Konami!" It wasn't until I played Suikoden II a few years down the road did I learn the truth. I swear, I became the happiest little RPG player in the world when Riou washed on shore to be found by two characters I thought were dead.

My best guess as to how they survived: Viktor grabbed Flik and just did something brash like jump out a window.

kuroinekokun · Post by **kuroinekokun** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:30 am

Futagi wrote:I remember almost crying at the end of Suikoden I cuz I'd thought for certain that they'd died. "Thanks for killing off my two favorite characters AND waiting till the very end of the game to do it, Konami!" It wasn't until I played Suikoden II a few years down the road did I learn the truth. I swear, I became the happiest little RPG player in the world when Riou washed on shore to be found by two characters I thought were dead.

My best guess as to how they survived: Viktor grabbed Flik and just did something brash like jump out a window.

If that happened, Flik would have more reasons to really HATE Viktor.
Flik: You threw me out the window, you jerk!
Viktor: Well, if it wasn't for that, you'd be buried under Gregmister!
Flik: Yeah, but do I have to be your cushion?!

Heh.

Well, I think they basically charged their way out of the castle and once they were out, they decided to disappear.
It would make a great side piece to the Suiko series if they showed HOW Fliktor escaped.

Agremsep · Post by **Agremsep** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:37 am

They have given me the impression that escaping all these going-blow-up castles are like their daily routine. They welcomes death in front of their face and plays around with it. They are just damn composed when these things happen.

Look at what happened when the Merc Fort got attacked ; instead of running, they throw the Fire Spears into the broiler and let it blow all up. After that, they took the liberty to run to the second floor and rescue Riou/Jowy/Pillika.

Hahaha, talk about men in action, I think they are. Wouldn't surprise me if they can survive the Gregminster incident.

Star of destiny · Post by **Star of destiny** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:52 pm

They have given me the impression that escaping all these going-blow-up castles are like their daily routine. They welcomes death in front of their face and plays around with it. They are just damn composed when these things happen.

Look at what happened when the Merc Fort got attacked ; instead of running, they throw the Fire Spears into the broiler and let it blow all up. After that, they took the liberty to run to the second floor and rescue Riou/Jowy/Pillika.

Hahaha, talk about men in action, I think they are. Wouldn't surprise me if they can survive the Gregminster incident.

I completely agree with this. they are brave and strong and i think they would find it an easy task to escape. I wish they would show us a video of their escape!!

Silver Dragon Flik · Post by **Silver Dragon Flik** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:06 pm

I think the Star Dragon Sword helped out very much.

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:09 pm

Then they stick it in a cave so it gets more grumpy at them. Leaves me to wonder why he didn't just hid it in the cave once all that Neclord business was once again over.

Silver Dragon Flik · Post by **Silver Dragon Flik** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:38 pm

xXSqualleoNXx wrote:Then they stick it in a cave so it gets more grumpy at them. Leaves me to wonder why he didn't just hid it in the cave once all that Neclord business was once again over.

Victor and the Star Dragon Sword never got along well, so maybe that's the reason? But i haven't played S1 and S2 since years. I'll start playing S1 and S2 soon again.

But I don't think a good answer will be ever found to this question.

kuroinekokun · Post by **kuroinekokun** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:04 pm

They never did get along. I read somewhere (maybe at suikosource) that the Zodiac/Star Dragon Sword stabbed Viktor a few times. Viktor stuck it there to get rid of it. He never thought he would need it again.

Silver Dragon Flik · Post by **Silver Dragon Flik** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:36 am

Well I think they just rampaged through the castle, since Victor alone takes on a lot of soldiers.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:48 pm

Finally, someone who posted what probably happened in Gregminister. First of all, the castle didn't collapse; only the Hanging Gardens fell off and caused a big rumbling within the castle. I doubt something magical happened where they teleported away or jumped out of a window, they probably just fought their way out and went off to go see Annabelle about getting that Mercenary Fort in Eastern Muse.

KoyuRedd · Post by **KoyuRedd** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:11 pm

Or they remained inside the castle until the garden fell, and went out through a back way so... no one could see them?

The Star Dragon Sword could have teleported them away. It did transport McDohl, Viktor and the rest of the party to the past before, so why not to another place? Maybe the Cave of the Wind was the place they got to, and after getting rid of the sword, they went to Muse and talked to Annabelle, blah blah blah. You know the rest.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:22 pm

It clearly says in Flik's entry that he and Viktor stayed behind to keep the soldiers at bay so the others could get away. Teleporting away or just simply leaving wouldn't really be keeping soldiers at bay. Also, why would the Star Dragon Sword help someone it doesn't particularrly like by teleporting him to a place where the SDS could be dumped without anyone knowing? The SDS does have the ability to transport people through time but the specifics aren't known. Can he/she teleport people to other times besides that one moment in the Village of the Hidden Rune? Can he/she teleport itself, and not just other people? Can he/she even teleport to different locations besides the Village of the Hidden Rune? Since nothing is known besides the fact that the SDS can transport a group of people (not including his/herself) to the Village of the Hidden Rune during the very moment it was being destroyed by Windy and it's shown any other magical transportation powers before or after then we can't say very much, if even anything at all, about the SDS' powers.

KoyuRedd · Post by **KoyuRedd** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:59 pm

1: It was just an idea.

2: If SDS could transport itslef and/or others to other places, how could it have known that Viktor was going to dump it?