Flik and Victor escaping

Vincent of Scarlet Moon · Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:03 pm

KoyuRedd wrote: 2: If SDS could transport itslef and/or others to other places, how could it have known that Viktor was going to dump it?

What would being able to teleport have to do with the Zodiac Sword knowing if Viktor was going to abandon it?

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:02 pm

I think he misunderstood what I was trying to say. The SDS was only approached by Viktor on the grounds that Viktor needed it to slay a vampire. Once the vampire was thought to be gone the SDS probably knew that it would be dumped somewhere, likely in a cave or some other place nobody would go looking for a True Rune in the form of a sword. If the SDS were to teleport Viktor and company to the Cave of the Wind, it would only make it easier for Viktor to dump it there.

And yes, I know it was an idea. But it was an idea that was based upon nothing, so I proceeded to disprove it. It's the same with theories. Theories can be disproven too, especially with the constant mistranslations and misunderstandings of what's at Suikosource and Suikox.

Sorry if I'm sounding rude here, but the SDS has no reason to use whatever powers it has to help Viktor. It only stayed around to "kill" Neclord. It's obvious that Viktor and the SDS don't get along, but once they find a common enemy they can work together in harmony, somewhat.

KoyuRedd · Post by **KoyuRedd** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:11 pm

OK. Understood. All comments accepted.
It's been so long since I last played SI and II that I nearly forgot all meanings behind the characters and games. I thought its "mind" worked like a human's, so it could only assume without being sure of what would have happened.

That clarified a lot of doubts in me.

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:19 am

Actually, I wonder how the heck Viktor kept the sword for as long as he did. Maybe he found more vampires to destroy. Actually, that was it. Poor Edge got fooled into taking it.

jonathan_priest · Post by **jonathan_priest** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:53 pm

What always made little sense to me was, Tir, Flik, Victor and the other three are on top of the castle facing Barbarosa after they defeat him. Then, four of the five great generals confront him as well. As we know, all Hell breaks loose and Tir, Flik and Victor and the others hot foot it out of there, leaving the generals. Now, Flik and Victor both stay behind, but the generals make it out. How could the generals have escaped and not passed Flik or Victor?

Fudgepuppy · Post by **Fudgepuppy** » Sun May 01, 2005 5:20 am

hnn i think you have a point about that maybe because they're one of the five what generals they could know a secret passage or something??
I think Flik and Viktor Escaped as fast as they can you know Flik is called flik of the blue lightning

that means he's fast as lighnting right?
if i recall i remember flik being called the blue lightning because he saved Odessa(the liberation army leader/his sweetheart/his sword's name custom on warrior village to name your sword by the name of the most important person in your life)using the lightning rune...It make sense that
Flik could get out!But Viktor...?Geez he's as fat as a bear in sui1 and sui2 they called him bear how could a fatso like him get out in time and have two girlfriends(note:both of them die first Mary and then Anabelle)

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:11 am

jonathan_priest wrote:What always made little sense to me was, Tir, Flik, Victor and the other three are on top of the castle facing Barbarosa after they defeat him. Then, four of the five great generals confront him as well. As we know, all Hell breaks loose and Tir, Flik and Victor and the others hot foot it out of there, leaving the generals. Now, Flik and Victor both stay behind, but the generals make it out. How could the generals have escaped and not passed Flik or Victor?

They didn't pass them. They helped them out. 7 people against the soldiers are better odds than 2. Especially when one is wounded.

I think Viktor and Flik just wanted to go away--so they went one way, and the generals went another.

Remember--Viktor "forgot" to let people know he was alive. How do you forget something like that?

ninjaluc79 · Post by **ninjaluc79** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:13 am

That's why Viktor dumped the SDS because he's sick of its whining...
Maybe because Viktor's impatient. I think that he believes he can slash enemies(except Neclord, without the SDS, of course), perhaps, using any kind of sword he might get.

You may say Edge is fooled, but he took care of the SDS, who else would take care of it for Viktor, if Viktor himself is sick with it anyway?
I think Edge believes that through the SDS he can be recognized as a great swordsman, and maybe he's patient enough to follow anything it says, because as I said earlier, he believes that through it he can hone his skills so he can be someday a great swordsman. How? The SDS is searching for its enemies every now and then, and Edge, its current holder, will search them for the SDS...

This topic about the SDS is a very nice one IMO(what does it mean?)

Black Knight Yuber · Post by **Black Knight Yuber** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:11 pm

ninjaluc79 wrote:This topic about the SDS is a very nice one IMO(what does it mean?)

If you're meaning IMO, that is short for In My Opinion.

Pendergast · Post by **Pendergast** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:02 am

Viktor and Flik were both capable warriors--more than a match for the Imperial Guards. I think the simplist explanation is definetely the most accurate in this case.

Gilbert · Post by **Gilbert** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:05 pm

Yes. The simplest explanation is probably the best (In my opinion). I figure that Flik & Viktor both fought the Imperial soldiers for as long as they could, and before things got out of hand (Collapsing garden and all that), they made a run for it and escaped the building. Once they escaped, they knew that peace would be restored to the region, so they decided to go live and fight in Dunan, and the rest... is history...

Sickpup · Post by **Sickpup** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:53 am

I think if you bring Flik and Viktor to recruit Hix and Tengaar in Suikoden 2, they say some things about escaping the palace and going to Dunan. I vaguly remember something about them almost dying.

pesmerga786 · Post by **pesmerga786** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:10 pm

Victor and Flik are one of the best duo. When i saw them in suikoden 2 my eyes were wide open, i was so happy they were alive!!!

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:11 am

Sickpup wrote:I think if you bring Flik and Viktor to recruit Hix and Tengaar in Suikoden 2, they say some things about escaping the palace and going to Dunan. I vaguly remember something about them almost dying.

I think the part you're referring to is in the fort when they are talking about going to Gregminster. Viktor says he's crossed the area three times, and Flik responds: "Nearly killing me in the process."

reyjusuf · Post by **reyjusuf** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:22 pm

how did the 4 generals escape? they were behind the party.

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