Gods walk the earth? Spoiler, i think..

WIND · Post by **WIND** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:48 pm

Well i'm not so sure where this belongs(insert sweat drop here)...It's about trues runes, from what i gather the are basically considered gods, correct?...and if this is true, does this make the true rune holders gods, or just vessles for the gods?...if so, how does this work with a character like Luc or sasarai for that matter, because he was born with the true wind rune in him, shouldn't he then be considered somewhat a god?...whew, there's my question[/spoiler]

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:46 pm

wasted him pretty easy to be a god...but seriously the true runes are just incarnations of god not the god himself/herself/itself/whtaever the hell it is

WIND · Post by **WIND** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:50 pm

Pyro wrote:wasted him pretty easy to be a god...but seriously the true runes are just incarnations of god not the god himself/herself/itself/whtaever the hell it is

heh heh, yeah. dude did go down pretty easy.

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:52 pm

jesus i know im all like what the crap the whole game!!!cept when he looked like chris and geddoes team took them on she kept healing

Black Fang · Post by **Black Fang** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:47 pm

Gods???? I don't think it has anything to do with gods. The most godly person there is probably Leknaat but even she is only a human or humanoid at least. The runes themselves are materials with a possible soul but they are more like leeches as they need a live host to be used with the apparent exceptions of the Night Rune and the Beast Rune that still however need to be carried and unleashed respectively. Something tells me gods wouldn't act that way.

Post by **Vextor** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:49 am

Depends on the difinition of "god."

However, True Runes are things that represent forces that shape the Suikoden world. "Represent" is the keyword here. It is the closest thing to a "deity" in the suikoden world.

For example, the Souleater is a Rune that "represents" Life and Death (although it is often written as "Rune of Life and Death" for convenience's sake).

Black Fang · Post by **Black Fang** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:15 pm

Ya think? Well I guess you're kinda right, but I don't see them as somewhat of a diety and the Suiko world doesn't seem to exist because of them. They just seem to bring the magical element into it (elemental magic, dragons, zombies, vampires, teleportation, a heavy dosage of steroids packed in a rune). I don't think they would worship runes, they'd just regard them highly, like we do diamonds except runes would be more sacred since they literally posses power.

Post by **Vextor** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:56 am

That's basically what I mean, a very vague reverence.

Most of the citizens in the Suikoden world do not seem to know about True Runes. They are largely arcane.

Because this game was made in Japan, the religious element is very vague and undefined, much like religion in Japan.

Black Fang · Post by **Black Fang** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:24 pm

Dayamn Sars, you seem to really know your stuff. You wouldn't happen to be from Japan by any chance?

Hxc Flavor · Post by **Hxc Flavor** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:21 pm

its common knowledge SARS is the number 1 Suikoguru around.

i see how true rune holders could be seen as gods, or supernatural humans if you prefer. their immortal life ( or is that only with certain runes?) and awesome rune power makes them different from other mortals.

Occam Arkitect · Post by **Occam Arkitect** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:14 am

Black Fang wrote:Dayamn Sars, you seem to really know your stuff. You wouldn't happen to be from Japan by any chance?

He IS japanese, as he said months ago.

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:52 pm

he may have not been here when he said he was from japan.and luc wasnt technacly born was he???he was made like sasari for the sole purpose of holding a true rune

Black Fang · Post by **Black Fang** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:22 am

He IS japanese, as he said months ago.

Yea, well some of us weren't here months ago, but tanx for the confirmation.

i see how true rune holders could be seen as gods, or supernatural humans if you prefer. their immortal life ( or is that only with certain runes?) and awesome rune power makes them different from other mortals.

Gods or just really really powerful leaders and individuals?

luc wasnt technacly born was he???he was made like sasari for the sole purpose of holding a true rune

Well even clones are born, but as of still we're unsure of how Luc and Sasarai were born/made. Maybe it was a reincarnation like Mazus/Crowley so that a created/modified souls went through the birth process in two normally born twins. We can theorise but in reality we won't get anywhere unless someone has some official Konami info.

Flame Champion · Post by **Flame Champion** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:23 pm

Play Valkyrie Profile for some insite on how Homonculi are created

Post by **Vextor** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:44 pm

Homunculi and clones are completely different entities. Luc and Sasarai are clones of Hikusaak, not homunculi created by Hikusaak. If that were the case, they wouldn't look alike.