Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

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Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:59 pm

Inspired from another thread here. So what do you think?

Personally i believe they would. If Flik learnt about Annabelle's death i doubt he'd ever forgive Riou. Imagine how he reacted towards Tir when he learnt Odessa was killed when she was protecting a child.

Now you have to deal with a murder. How could someone convince him it wasn't him but Jowy who killed her?

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby sticky-runes » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:38 pm

Flik had no reason to hook up with Annabelle. Viktor was from Dunan, where Annabelle was from. Flik was from Scarlett Moon, where Odessa was raising a rebellion. It would be better to just create a thread discussing the differences between how the two men react to the death of a woman they were involved with.

Viktor experienced loss already, because we found out that his family and entire village were wiped out by Neclord, including Daisy, a girl he loved. So after experiencing tragedy at that scale at a young age and coming through it, that's probably why Viktor handles death better than Flik. Flik left his village to be with Odessa (he says she was the only person he ever looked up to) so he reacts like his entire world has fallen apart after Odessa has died. Viktor's world already fell apart when Northwindow was destroyed.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:46 pm

sticky-runes wrote:Flik had no reason to hook up with Annabelle. Viktor was from Dunan, where Annabelle was from. Flik was from Scarlett Moon, where Odessa was raising a rebellion. It would be better to just create a thread discussing the differences between how the two men react to the death of a woman they were involved with.

Viktor experienced loss already, because we found out that his family and entire village were wiped out by Neclord, including Daisy, a girl he loved. So after experiencing tragedy at that scale at a young age and coming through it, that's probably why Viktor handles death better than Flik. Flik left his village to be with Odessa (he says she was the only person he ever looked up to) so he reacts like his entire world has fallen apart after Odessa has died. Viktor's world already fell apart when Northwindow was destroyed.


Well.....you have a point there....but we say IF...

After all everything can happen in Suiko-world.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby sticky-runes » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:06 pm

Yeah, but switching pairings around is going a bit far. Flik as a character is pretty much defined by his love for Odessa, so asking what it would be like if he loved another character who he didn't even know very well doesn't really make a valid topic. Might as well ask what it would be like if Humphrey and Shin were lovers.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:26 pm

sticky-runes wrote:Yeah, but switching pairings around is going a bit far. Flik as a character is pretty much defined by his love for Odessa, so asking what it would be like if he loved another character who he didn't even know very well doesn't really make a valid topic. Might as well ask what it would be like if Humphrey and Shin were lovers.


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Humphrey:
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edit: Ah now i just thought about this rumor about Humphrey being Nash's wife:

http://www.suikox.com/spec/nashwife.php

Well it was a joke but still...you will never know about Humphrey's preferences would you? He's never been seen with a girl or a boy at all.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Antimatzist » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:04 pm

Why would Flik not forgive Riou? He hasn't done anything at all. You don't need to convince anybody, it's pretty obvious that it was Jowy.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:16 pm

Antimatzist wrote:Why would Flik not forgive Riou? He hasn't done anything at all. You don't need to convince anybody, it's pretty obvious that it was Jowy.


Jess didn't believe him. He thought he was putting the blame to his friend.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby Antimatzist » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:44 pm

Jess is also a dick. But neither Viktor nor Flik ever doubt Riou. And if Jess wasn't a dick, he would also realized that it was Jowy. I mean Jowy is running away and becomes a general in the Highland Army. You don't need a PhD from Greenhill to see what's going on.

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Re: Do you believe things would be evolved differently if Flik was Annabelle's lover and not Viktor?

Postby sticky-runes » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:54 am

Jess' reaction to Annabelle's death is kind of similar to Flik's reaction to Odessa's death in S1 - both men turn very bitter towards the hero, and try to get things done without accepting you as leader.

Of course, Flik doesn't actually blame Tir for Odessa's death (he almost blames Viktor for not protecting her, but he cools off quite quickly) he just doesn't like the idea of this kid taking over from Odessa when Flik has been much closer to her for a longer time.

I also noticed we never find out how Viktor feels about Jowy stabbing Annabelle. Riou practically told him (via fading to black screen conversation) in his own words that Jowy killed Annabelle. I suppose Viktor just keeps quiet about it because a) there's a war going on and Viktor knows he is more useful on the battlefield than sitting around discussing conspiracies, and b) Viktor understands that Riou and Nanami are very upset about their best friend becoming an enemy, and he respects them enough to not pry into their relationships.

And Jess is a cunt who is more focused on whinging and placing blame on people who are better than him than winning a war.


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