Starting this up again. Two questions on recruitment

[bookwormbabe29]

Hey all!

As topic says, two questions to pick your brain with today.

1. I read on a forum post people play Geddoe 1 first to get Peggi and his hammer, but I can't remember when the others can actually go there to make use of this. I probably will play Geddoe 1 first anyway to try this so it's not crucial, just curious of anyone remembers of the top of their head.


2. Second, I am wondering who the characters should recruit. I could have sworn there was a faq/sticky here that detailed suggestions, but either it's gone, I imagined it, or I've gone blind lol. If I remember right, the idea was to recruit people who can fight in war battles with Thomas for his fights, and other castle service people ASAP to help everyone. Can anyone make any suggestions for funny scenes, or helpful for a certain part (boss fights or something). Again, not crucial or anything, just curious if anyone had any suggestions to make the best use of my 108 stars.

Thanks for your time!

[Raww Le Klueze]

Chris can visit Budehuc in Chapter 2 and Hugo in 3. People tend to play all of Geddoe's chapters first so they can get access to the copper hammer easily and then use that to boost Chris, Thomas and Hugo if they're going that route.

As for the other question the only thing that is really worth any longer thought is getting Mel with Chris, otherwise it's just trying to get most fighters with Thomas and the shopkeepers as fast as you can with whatever characters.

[eldrasidar]

there's several characters who's start level is dependent on the person recruiting them, which may be what you are thinking of. These characters matter mostly if you are planning to use the Chris leveling trick. Most of them start at their recruiter's level give or take a level or two though so if you aren't using a super high level Chris, then it won't make a difference. Single exception to this would be Belle, who will start 15 levels higher, but only if Hugo recruits her, which is a great way to get a level 75 character into your army without having to using the level trick, or grinding with the fortune rune.

outside of that, the general principle is to grab characters as soon as possible, preferably by someone who can use them.

[gildedtalon]

LOL eldrasidar, never seen you for two years

[bookwormbabe29]

Hm, well, I'm still curious as to recruiting. I seem to recall Thomas needs as many war party members as he can get, but I can't find a list of who actually serves in war battles. Any suggestions where to find such information?

[Oliopro]

When I created my list for who to recruit with whom I figured out which characters are required to defend Budehuc in chapter 3. The Suikoden wiki that concentrates more on the universe information then the technical game stuff like here has it listed on the page for each recruitable character.

I still have the list so here they are:
Mel, Watari, Kenji, Koroku, Twaikin, Belle, Gadget Z, Ayame, Augustine, Nei, Shabon, Toppo, Sanae Y

To be honest though, the battle isn't hard enough to warrant getting all of them. Piccolo is such a beast if he casts lightning in that battle he destroys most things.

Edit: There are only two other combat characters that can be recruited by Thomas. (Melville and Alanis) They might be able to help in that combat as well, the wiki didn't say they could though.

Edit Edit: Also there are only 8 slots going that aren't filled by Thomas, Cecile, Juan and Piccolo, so getting all 13 of those characters isn't necessary.

[Jocky]

The only thing I could find, and it's not actually about War units, is a Character/Boss FAQ on gamefaqs.com that has a detailed description of the individuals strengths, weaknesses and skill levels. BUT it does mention what each person is in the War Battles, be it a Leader, Fighter or Support character. Here is a v.stripped down version of the original guide, in no particular order:

Name: Geddoe
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Ace
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Queen
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Joker
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Jacques
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Aila
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t fight

Name: Jeane
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Ernie
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t fight

Name: Scott
War Fighting Style: None

Name: Hugo
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Sgt. Jordi (Joe)
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Fubar
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Lulu
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t fight

Name: Melville
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Alanis
War Fighting Style: N/A

Name: Elliott
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Chris Lightfellow
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Salome Harras
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Support

Name: Roland Lesarus
War Fighting Style: Split - Fighter/Leader

Name: Borus Redrum
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Louis Keeferson
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t fight

Name: Thomas
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Cecile
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Fighter

Name: Piccolo
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Juan
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Sebastian
War Fighting Style: Mix – Support/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Martha
War Fighting Style: Mix – Support/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Muto
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Eike
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Kathy
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Kidd
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Mio
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Mel
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Kenji
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Twaikin
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Belle
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Gadget Z
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Nei
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Support

Name: Toppo
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Shabon
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Goro
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Augustine
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Gordon
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Shizu
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Dominic
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Peggi
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Mike
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Edge
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Lilly Pendragon
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Reed
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Samus
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Percival Fraulein
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Fighter

Name: Leo Gallen
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Fighter

Name: Watari
War Fighting Style: Split – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Ayame
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Nash Clovis (Latkje)
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Doesn’t Fight

War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Arthur
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Hallec
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Mua
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Sanae Y
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Mamie
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Guilliame
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Wan Fu
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Emily
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Fred Maximillian
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Fighter

Name: Rico
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Rhett
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Wilder
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Doesn’t Fight

Name: Barts
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Hortez VII
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Yumi
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Yun
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Yuiri
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Estella
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Rody
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Lucia
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Beechum
War Fighting Style: Mix – Leader/Support

Name: Jimba
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Dupa
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Shiba
War Fighting Style: Mix – Fighter/Leader

Name: Bazba
War Fighting Style: Mix - Leader/Fighter

Name: Luce
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t fight

Name: Anne
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Caesar Silverburg
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Apple
War Fighting Style: Mix – Support/Leader

Name: Jefferson
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Tuta
War Fighting Style: Support

Name: Viki (Big)
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Viki (Little)
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Futch
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Bright
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Sharon
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Landis
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Billy
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Nadir
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Duke
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Elaine
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Gau
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Nicolas
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Franz
War Fighting Style: Fighter (Leader when he is your enemy)

Name: Iku
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Ruby
War Fighting Style: Fighter

Name: Sasarai
War Fighting Style: Leader

Name: Dios
War Fighting Style: Doesn’t Fight

Name: Luc
War Fighting Style: Doesn't fight (is an enemy leader in other POV's)

Name: Sarah
War Fighting Style: Doesn't Fight (is a leader when she is an enemy)

Name: Yuber
War Fighting Style: Doesn't fight, (enemy leader, though)

Name: Albert Silverburg
War Fighting Style: Support as an enemy, doesn't fight when you control him

The original FAQ can be found here. I hope this helps, even if only a little!

[eldrasidar]

Thomas honestly doesn't need that many war characters. if you spend the time to grind a little with Thomas, Cecile, Juan, and Piccolo, all of them perform much better in the war battles than anyone you're going to recruit.

[Oliopro]

I know the original poster is probably well past this point now but I've been researching for a guide I'm working on so I can tell you how recruiting characters and the Thomas Chapter 2 battles work.

So over the course of the two battles there are a total of 5 units you can control 2 of which are used in both battles. The Hugo Unit and the Lilly Unit are the same no matter what you do so no explaining needed there.

From the remaining 3 units only Thomas, Cecile, Juan, Piccolo, Sebastian and Martha are always in these Units. The other characters are in those exact locations if you have recruited them, otherwise those slots are empty. The only character I strongly suggest you get with Thomas is Mel, everyone else is optional.

Thomas Unit looks like this
MiddleFront - Twaikin
Front - Mel (Has Surprise)
Front - Piccolo
Back - Thomas (Leader)
Support - Martha

The Thomas Unit has the abilities Wind Rune I (Probably on Thomas), Quicken I (Probably on Thomas) and QuickAid (Probably on Martha). Having Mel also adds Surprise to the unit.

Cecile Unit looks like this
MF - Nei
F - Toppo
F - Shabon
B - Cecile (Leader)
S - Sebastian (Has Control IV)

Nei, Toppo and Shabon have the skills Quicken II and QuickAid. I don't know who has what although I have an inkling that Nei has them both.

Juan Unit looks like this
MF - Augustine (Has Tactics I)
F - Koroku
F - Watari
B - Juan (Leader, Has Valor III)
S - Mio (Has, Heal II and QuickAid)

[bookwormbabe29]

Most interesting! I did do Thomas 1, and let him recruit a lot of people as I thought it fitting him being the Tenkai and all. I saved Mio for Chris in Thomas 1, but I can still grab her before the war battles if I remember right. Both this and the big list were are quite helpful, so you have my thanks